lovecoogee Please be careful how you talk to Jesus Larsinger.
If you upset his father there will be Hell to pay!
theres a clear difference between prophecies (predictions of future events) and laws(stuff you should and shouldnt do).. now since xians always says jesus fullfilled the law, how does one fullfill a bunch of requirements like dont murder, dont worship idols, shave your beard like this etc.. there are 613 laws in the torah, jewish rabbis have done all the hard work and we have a nice list on wiki.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/613_mitzvot.
im confused which of those some how select a unique individual to be the unique messiah ?
then again there were many messiahs, every king and priest of israel and judea was a messiah.
lovecoogee Please be careful how you talk to Jesus Larsinger.
If you upset his father there will be Hell to pay!
i dunnu, that jesus was/is worshipped perhaps.
john 5;23 that all may honor the son just as they honor the father.
whoever does not honor the son does not honor the father, who sent him..
Come on Tater-T - you don't have to be insane to believe the Bible.....................................................................but it helps!
this is a spin-off from the argo thread.. who here has read the 'little house' books by laura ingalls wilder?
were you disappointed when you realized how much could not possibly have happened the way it was told?.
Real life can never be fiction, but fiction can be mistaken for real life.
Once we stray out of the confines of reality, any trick of the mind is possible.
theres a clear difference between prophecies (predictions of future events) and laws(stuff you should and shouldnt do).. now since xians always says jesus fullfilled the law, how does one fullfill a bunch of requirements like dont murder, dont worship idols, shave your beard like this etc.. there are 613 laws in the torah, jewish rabbis have done all the hard work and we have a nice list on wiki.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/613_mitzvot.
im confused which of those some how select a unique individual to be the unique messiah ?
then again there were many messiahs, every king and priest of israel and judea was a messiah.
“How exactly did Jesus fulfill the law NOT the prophecies.”
Same as the Santa Clause figure fulfilled Noel but never really brought the presents.
i have been out of commission for several weeks.
back around the first of the year i developed an infection in my left foot.
due to diabetes and poor circulation the doctors were unable to save my foot and so i received a below the knee amputation.
TOTH I can't begin to imagine what it is like to have to adjust to such a loss.
Hope that you get used to the prosthesis when it arrives and are able to get back to your normal routine.
My thoughts are with you.
Trevor
op based on mr. freeze's topic - could attending the meetings/studying again sway any of you back to the org.
hearing the propaganda over and over again is pretty powerful i'm sure.
(i'm a non-jw, non-christian (no offense), stubborn as a bull and even i had moments of pause based on some of the doctrine (lasted 30 seconds) but i never had family/friends at stake or a background in this.
For the right compensation I could be persuaded. Every man has his breaking point!
"And about 30,000 others......pick yours....or not."
Thanks but I'd rather pick my nose!
zed is dead There are hundreds of gods and as many as you can imagine.
how do we reconcile those bullshits being told at the meetings about how jehovah's eyes are upon us and how his figurative wings serves as protection to those who are destitute with the condition of these sickly sudanese refugees at this camp.. .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oihlh1xd2lu&feature=g-all-u.
tec " It would be a fundamental flaw, imo, that if we are all there is, that we could not learn to stand on our own in reality."
Billions of people do stand on reality, others seek an alternative of their own. I totally understand the desire to put faith in a hope for the future. At the end of the day reality is a persistent intruder.
how do we reconcile those bullshits being told at the meetings about how jehovah's eyes are upon us and how his figurative wings serves as protection to those who are destitute with the condition of these sickly sudanese refugees at this camp.. .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oihlh1xd2lu&feature=g-all-u.
tec "Because there would have been nothing for us to seek to begin with. Why develop a yearning for something that is non-existant? If you say it developed as part of our evolution or pattern thinking, whatever, well that implies a fundamntal flaw in the human species, that it cannot survive without delusion of some sort."
This would appear to be the case. Unlike other animals we have a highly developed imagination which gives us the ability to contemplate our own demise. This same ability allows us to create a way to circumnavigate death - in our mind.
It could be that the Achilles heel in the human race is our overly imaginative mind. It has enabled us to re-shape the world we live in and give us an abundance of choice and pleasure. Ultimately, as a race, it could be our undoing.
Peace
Trevor